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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://liamscheff.com/daily/2007/09/22/vaccine-blues-the-aids-crusade-moves-on/comment-page-1/#comment-3704</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 08:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for keeping us all informed-- the latest being about the failed &quot;vaccine.&quot; Although I couldn&#039;t find the word &quot;fajiminy&quot; in dictionary.com, I thought it was an excellent word to have used in that context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for keeping us all informed&#8211; the latest being about the failed &#8220;vaccine.&#8221; Although I couldn&#8217;t find the word &#8220;fajiminy&#8221; in dictionary.com, I thought it was an excellent word to have used in that context.</p>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
		<link>http://liamscheff.com/daily/2007/09/22/vaccine-blues-the-aids-crusade-moves-on/comment-page-1/#comment-3696</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a probable explanation for all of it:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20070927/sc_space/meteoritecrashbreedsmasshysteria

It&#039;s got &quot;all the hallmarks of a case of mass hysteria.&quot;


&quot;Some health officials suggest that the symptoms described by the locals, the large number of people reporting symptoms, and the apparently rapid spread &lt;b&gt;have all the hallmarks of a case of mass hysteria.&lt;/b&gt;

&quot;Those who say they are affected are the &lt;b&gt;product of a collective psychosis,&quot;&lt;/b&gt; Jorge Lopez Tejada, health department chief in Puno, the nearest city, told the Los Angeles Times.

This psychosis could have &lt;b&gt;begun as a result of fear&lt;/b&gt; of the meteorite and the mysterious &quot;disease&quot; on the part of the residents and spread as &lt;b&gt;official and media reports seemed to confirm it and give it credence.&lt;/b&gt;

&quot;The Peruvian event seems to be a rare case where we may be witnessing &lt;b&gt;collective anxiety that is approaching near hysteria,&quot;&lt;/b&gt; said Benny Peiser, a social anthropologist at John Moores University in England. &quot;The major[ity] of the affected Peruvian town hinted that some of the mass anxiety is due to &lt;b&gt;fear of imminent impacts and psychological stress&lt;/b&gt; which is not surprising given the premature speculation and media hype.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a probable explanation for all of it:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20070927/sc_space/meteoritecrashbreedsmasshysteria" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20070927/sc_space/meteoritecrashbreedsmasshysteria</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s got &#8220;all the hallmarks of a case of mass hysteria.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Some health officials suggest that the symptoms described by the locals, the large number of people reporting symptoms, and the apparently rapid spread <b>have all the hallmarks of a case of mass hysteria.</b></p>
<p>&#8220;Those who say they are affected are the <b>product of a collective psychosis,&#8221;</b> Jorge Lopez Tejada, health department chief in Puno, the nearest city, told the Los Angeles Times.</p>
<p>This psychosis could have <b>begun as a result of fear</b> of the meteorite and the mysterious &#8220;disease&#8221; on the part of the residents and spread as <b>official and media reports seemed to confirm it and give it credence.</b></p>
<p>&#8220;The Peruvian event seems to be a rare case where we may be witnessing <b>collective anxiety that is approaching near hysteria,&#8221;</b> said Benny Peiser, a social anthropologist at John Moores University in England. &#8220;The major[ity] of the affected Peruvian town hinted that some of the mass anxiety is due to <b>fear of imminent impacts and psychological stress</b> which is not surprising given the premature speculation and media hype.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A beautiful piece of work on a history of vaccination:

&quot;How to Predict Epidemics&quot; - http://www.oism.org/ddp/epidemics.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A beautiful piece of work on a history of vaccination:</p>
<p>&#8220;How to Predict Epidemics&#8221; &#8211; <a href="http://www.oism.org/ddp/epidemics.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.oism.org/ddp/epidemics.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Manu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank for that Liam. 

This is all so nuts I keep praying at time that it&#039;s me who is not getting it and that the establishent is right. After i read the explaination in the articel i nearly fell off my chair. 

What a hoot! 
It read like a piece from a Dr. Who script. 

I actually spontaneously posted on it on my blog but still had the sensation and the twisted hope that I was the one who was lacking information.

Between us we go from &quot;hoot&quot; to &quot;racket&quot;. 

Can it get worse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank for that Liam. </p>
<p>This is all so nuts I keep praying at time that it&#8217;s me who is not getting it and that the establishent is right. After i read the explaination in the articel i nearly fell off my chair. </p>
<p>What a hoot!<br />
It read like a piece from a Dr. Who script. </p>
<p>I actually spontaneously posted on it on my blog but still had the sensation and the twisted hope that I was the one who was lacking information.</p>
<p>Between us we go from &#8220;hoot&#8221; to &#8220;racket&#8221;. </p>
<p>Can it get worse?</p>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 17:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s a just a huge mess for them, as you can parse from their nonsequiters.

First, they have no singular particle from which to create a deadened or weakened particle to inject into people.  This is the old western vaccine practice, to inject people with an attenuated or weakened bunch of what they believe is making people sick.

(The oldest practice was to take a bit of dried sun-dried pus from a smallpox pustule, and blow it up the noses of children. North American Indian practice, I&#039;ve been told.) 

But they can&#039;t inject people with an attenuated (weakened) particle, because, remember, there&#039;s no purified reference particle - no standard for the tests.

The second problem is that they consider the presence of antibodies to indicate active, &#039;deadly&#039; infection. This is the opposite of how the body likes to work.

That is, where the body has encountered a piece of something, a particle, etc, and has produced little protein grabbers (antibodies) to it, we have understood this to mean that the body has overcome any particular infection.  But with hiv-ology, the claim is that non-specific antibodies actually indicate the presence of something that has Not been regulated by the body and cells.

So, here, even though you&#039;ve overcome something (or in the case of &#039;hiv tests&#039; - anything and everything and nothing in particular) - they actually get away with telling people that they&#039;re now going to die...

...in 18 months or 25 years, or so, (who knows? they&#039;re scientists! they&#039;re working on it! give them time!), so the patient really should take some anti-cell, anti-dna, anti-protein-enzyme drugs, such as &quot;aids drugs&quot; are, by design.

So, that&#039;s the basic turnaround. It&#039;s a cockup, to be sure; ca ne functionne pas.


Part 2: For the &#039;vaccine&#039; makers, then, there is little to work with. No single particle - and then again, having antibodies is not, as is biologically predictable, a sign of having encountered and dealt with a putative little visitor.

Here, they have the trick of getting people to produce antibodies to a particular particle, without having a particular particle, and without being able to get the body to produce antibodies (because, in hiv-ology, antibodies are a sure sign of (your doctor&#039;s intention to drug you, with best intentions, and little study, to) death!)


So, what can they do? They have to pretend that they&#039;re going to somehow &#039;stimulate TCells.&#039;  Well, you can do this with a nice walk outside, I&#039;d bet, better than by injecting particles from Merck&#039;s petri dishes into your cullo.

There&#039;s a beautiful history of vaccination by a Dr. Andy Maniotis, up on the web somewhere. I&#039;ll look for it and post. Beautiful, rigorous piece of work.

In sum, no. They&#039;re entirely full of horse manure. They knew from the start that the idea of getting people to produce antibodies (the purpose of a vaccine) for a &#039;disease&#039; putatively &#039;diagnosed&#039; (and it&#039;s not, by the way) by the presence of antibodies was a fools errand. 

And the fools be the American public, of course, who fund this bullshit, with tax dollars. It&#039;s a racket. 

If you need a few dollars, you should always invest at the beginning of any aids pogrom program. It&#039;ll generate cash for a few years, until it fails miserably.

Anyhoo. 

cheers my friend,

Liam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s a just a huge mess for them, as you can parse from their nonsequiters.</p>
<p>First, they have no singular particle from which to create a deadened or weakened particle to inject into people.  This is the old western vaccine practice, to inject people with an attenuated or weakened bunch of what they believe is making people sick.</p>
<p>(The oldest practice was to take a bit of dried sun-dried pus from a smallpox pustule, and blow it up the noses of children. North American Indian practice, I&#8217;ve been told.) </p>
<p>But they can&#8217;t inject people with an attenuated (weakened) particle, because, remember, there&#8217;s no purified reference particle &#8211; no standard for the tests.</p>
<p>The second problem is that they consider the presence of antibodies to indicate active, &#8216;deadly&#8217; infection. This is the opposite of how the body likes to work.</p>
<p>That is, where the body has encountered a piece of something, a particle, etc, and has produced little protein grabbers (antibodies) to it, we have understood this to mean that the body has overcome any particular infection.  But with hiv-ology, the claim is that non-specific antibodies actually indicate the presence of something that has Not been regulated by the body and cells.</p>
<p>So, here, even though you&#8217;ve overcome something (or in the case of &#8216;hiv tests&#8217; &#8211; anything and everything and nothing in particular) &#8211; they actually get away with telling people that they&#8217;re now going to die&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;in 18 months or 25 years, or so, (who knows? they&#8217;re scientists! they&#8217;re working on it! give them time!), so the patient really should take some anti-cell, anti-dna, anti-protein-enzyme drugs, such as &#8220;aids drugs&#8221; are, by design.</p>
<p>So, that&#8217;s the basic turnaround. It&#8217;s a cockup, to be sure; ca ne functionne pas.</p>
<p>Part 2: For the &#8216;vaccine&#8217; makers, then, there is little to work with. No single particle &#8211; and then again, having antibodies is not, as is biologically predictable, a sign of having encountered and dealt with a putative little visitor.</p>
<p>Here, they have the trick of getting people to produce antibodies to a particular particle, without having a particular particle, and without being able to get the body to produce antibodies (because, in hiv-ology, antibodies are a sure sign of (your doctor&#8217;s intention to drug you, with best intentions, and little study, to) death!)</p>
<p>So, what can they do? They have to pretend that they&#8217;re going to somehow &#8217;stimulate TCells.&#8217;  Well, you can do this with a nice walk outside, I&#8217;d bet, better than by injecting particles from Merck&#8217;s petri dishes into your cullo.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a beautiful history of vaccination by a Dr. Andy Maniotis, up on the web somewhere. I&#8217;ll look for it and post. Beautiful, rigorous piece of work.</p>
<p>In sum, no. They&#8217;re entirely full of horse manure. They knew from the start that the idea of getting people to produce antibodies (the purpose of a vaccine) for a &#8216;disease&#8217; putatively &#8216;diagnosed&#8217; (and it&#8217;s not, by the way) by the presence of antibodies was a fools errand. </p>
<p>And the fools be the American public, of course, who fund this bullshit, with tax dollars. It&#8217;s a racket. </p>
<p>If you need a few dollars, you should always invest at the beginning of any aids pogrom program. It&#8217;ll generate cash for a few years, until it fails miserably.</p>
<p>Anyhoo. </p>
<p>cheers my friend,</p>
<p>Liam</p>
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		<title>By: Manu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liam, what is &quot;non classical vaccination&quot;? As opposed to &quot;classical vaccination&quot; as mentioned in the WSJ article? 

The explaination they give there sounds so way out I just had to laugh. 

Does such a thing actually exist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liam, what is &#8220;non classical vaccination&#8221;? As opposed to &#8220;classical vaccination&#8221; as mentioned in the WSJ article? </p>
<p>The explaination they give there sounds so way out I just had to laugh. </p>
<p>Does such a thing actually exist?</p>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 03:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yahoo &quot;News&quot; reports:

South Africa &quot;devastated&quot; by stop of trials (that is, guy in lab now needs to get real job, &quot;devastated&quot; by predicament:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070922/hl_afp/safricahealthaidsusmerck_070922121456</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yahoo &#8220;News&#8221; reports:</p>
<p>South Africa &#8220;devastated&#8221; by stop of trials (that is, guy in lab now needs to get real job, &#8220;devastated&#8221; by predicament:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070922/hl_afp/safricahealthaidsusmerck_070922121456" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070922/hl_afp/safricahealthaidsusmerck_070922121456</a></p>
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