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		<title>By: MacDonald</title>
		<link>http://liamscheff.com/daily/2007/10/25/notes-on-a-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-11022</link>
		<dc:creator>MacDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 01:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is of course an answer to the question how the doctor can know if the deformities are caused by HIV or the drugs. She can take the children who &quot;fail to thrive&quot; off the drugs and see what happens. That&#039;s what they did with the three kids in the movie. The results were clear in those cases at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is of course an answer to the question how the doctor can know if the deformities are caused by HIV or the drugs. She can take the children who &#8220;fail to thrive&#8221; off the drugs and see what happens. That&#8217;s what they did with the three kids in the movie. The results were clear in those cases at least.</p>
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		<title>By: MacDonald</title>
		<link>http://liamscheff.com/daily/2007/10/25/notes-on-a-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-11023</link>
		<dc:creator>MacDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the study outline, it actually looks like the bodily deformities are sought attributed to HIV.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Preliminary information indicates that lean body mass is lost in preference to fat mass in HIV-infected children, supporting the theory that failure to thrive in HIV infection is often cytokine mediated. It can be hypothesized that changes in body composition (lean body mass) may predict changes in weight growth velocity and may give an early clinical indication of treatment failure.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Among the listed keywords we find &quot;lipodystrophy&quot; and &quot;wasting&quot;. lipodystrophy (redistribution of fat) has traditionally been associated with protease inhibitors, whereas wasting (loss of muscle mass) is a known effect of AZT and of course of the nausea, vomiting, loss of appetite etc. the drugs may cause.

The conflation of drug side-effects and the supposed action of HIV itself is expressed in the first sentence below:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Though studies have been done on adults, little is known about the effects of _HIV infection and anti-HIV drugs_ on body composition in children. One theory is that changes in body composition can predict the failure of anti-HIV treatment. If this is true, body composition measurements can be as useful as CD4+ cell counts in determining drug effectiveness.&lt;/i&gt;

It is anybody&#039;s guess how the doctor is supposed to distinguish between the seemingly identical effects of &quot;HIV&quot; and the anti-HIV drugs. And yet they hope these effects, lipodystrophy and wasting, are correlated with viral load thus &quot;proving&quot;, I guess, they are caused by HIV.

This looks to be the perfect example of a classic HIV-drug study design, whose theoretical foundation is kept fluid enough to blame HIV and praise the drugs regardless of outcome. I am as so often before reminded of Jaques Lacan&#039;s analogy of the sliding chains of signifiers and signifieds.

On a related note, here is how &quot;HIV disease&quot; is now being redefined _in America:_

&lt;i&gt;&quot;It&#039;s very clear now that HIV is no longer a wasting disease in America,&quot; said Dr. John T. Brooks, an epidemiologist in AIDs prevention at the Centers for Disease Control.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

All thanks to the beneficial effects of the drugs of course, which are in fact so successful they create new &quot;over-healthiness&quot; problems.

http://health.yahoo.com/news/ap/diet_aids_and_obesity.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the study outline, it actually looks like the bodily deformities are sought attributed to HIV.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Preliminary information indicates that lean body mass is lost in preference to fat mass in HIV-infected children, supporting the theory that failure to thrive in HIV infection is often cytokine mediated. It can be hypothesized that changes in body composition (lean body mass) may predict changes in weight growth velocity and may give an early clinical indication of treatment failure.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Among the listed keywords we find &#8220;lipodystrophy&#8221; and &#8220;wasting&#8221;. lipodystrophy (redistribution of fat) has traditionally been associated with protease inhibitors, whereas wasting (loss of muscle mass) is a known effect of AZT and of course of the nausea, vomiting, loss of appetite etc. the drugs may cause.</p>
<p>The conflation of drug side-effects and the supposed action of HIV itself is expressed in the first sentence below:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Though studies have been done on adults, little is known about the effects of _HIV infection and anti-HIV drugs_ on body composition in children. One theory is that changes in body composition can predict the failure of anti-HIV treatment. If this is true, body composition measurements can be as useful as CD4+ cell counts in determining drug effectiveness.</i></p>
<p>It is anybody&#8217;s guess how the doctor is supposed to distinguish between the seemingly identical effects of &#8220;HIV&#8221; and the anti-HIV drugs. And yet they hope these effects, lipodystrophy and wasting, are correlated with viral load thus &#8220;proving&#8221;, I guess, they are caused by HIV.</p>
<p>This looks to be the perfect example of a classic HIV-drug study design, whose theoretical foundation is kept fluid enough to blame HIV and praise the drugs regardless of outcome. I am as so often before reminded of Jaques Lacan&#8217;s analogy of the sliding chains of signifiers and signifieds.</p>
<p>On a related note, here is how &#8220;HIV disease&#8221; is now being redefined _in America:_</p>
<p><i>&#8220;It&#8217;s very clear now that HIV is no longer a wasting disease in America,&#8221; said Dr. John T. Brooks, an epidemiologist in AIDs prevention at the Centers for Disease Control.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>All thanks to the beneficial effects of the drugs of course, which are in fact so successful they create new &#8220;over-healthiness&#8221; problems.</p>
<p><a href="http://health.yahoo.com/news/ap/diet_aids_and_obesity.html" rel="nofollow">http://health.yahoo.com/news/ap/diet_aids_and_obesity.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
		<link>http://liamscheff.com/daily/2007/10/25/notes-on-a-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-11018</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So this is a study with drugs that are known to cause lipdystrophy, for the purposes of studying lipodystrophy...

This is what is really mentally-ill about the paradigm.

They know they can predict the &quot;changes in body composition&quot;, and yet they&#039;re going to do it anyway, in order to..what?

To what?

To learn how to predict the &quot;failure of the anti-HIV treatment.&quot;

Holy Shit. I mean, imagine writing this, imagine setting this &quot;experiment&quot; up, knowing that you are going to put human beings - infants and children - through this process, which can kill a person.

Now, what they&#039;re talking about monitoring are the surrogate markers - the Tcell and PCR counts - which do not work, one to the other, as even reasonably accurate predictors or specific diagnostics of any particular infection, of health or of illness.

That is, PCR (Viral load) doesn&#039;t predict TCell values. TCell values do not predict (or give specific evidence to) any specific problem.

And yet, the drugs are targeted (or attempt to target) these surrogate values - but in doing so, they also alter total body composition, which has and can and does result in organ failure and death.

Now, if they weren&#039;t mentally-ill, or paradigm-blind, these assholes, (and that&#039;s the term I&#039;ll generously use for the bastards setting up a study like this in children), could focus on addressing whatever Immune Deficiencies were present, or whatever specific illnesses were manifesting, instead of only allowing themselves to focus on trying (and always failing) to obliterate or alter or eradicate the surrogate markers - which don&#039;t relate to patient health anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this is a study with drugs that are known to cause lipdystrophy, for the purposes of studying lipodystrophy&#8230;</p>
<p>This is what is really mentally-ill about the paradigm.</p>
<p>They know they can predict the &#8220;changes in body composition&#8221;, and yet they&#8217;re going to do it anyway, in order to..what?</p>
<p>To what?</p>
<p>To learn how to predict the &#8220;failure of the anti-HIV treatment.&#8221;</p>
<p>Holy Shit. I mean, imagine writing this, imagine setting this &#8220;experiment&#8221; up, knowing that you are going to put human beings &#8211; infants and children &#8211; through this process, which can kill a person.</p>
<p>Now, what they&#8217;re talking about monitoring are the surrogate markers &#8211; the Tcell and PCR counts &#8211; which do not work, one to the other, as even reasonably accurate predictors or specific diagnostics of any particular infection, of health or of illness.</p>
<p>That is, PCR (Viral load) doesn&#8217;t predict TCell values. TCell values do not predict (or give specific evidence to) any specific problem.</p>
<p>And yet, the drugs are targeted (or attempt to target) these surrogate values &#8211; but in doing so, they also alter total body composition, which has and can and does result in organ failure and death.</p>
<p>Now, if they weren&#8217;t mentally-ill, or paradigm-blind, these assholes, (and that&#8217;s the term I&#8217;ll generously use for the bastards setting up a study like this in children), could focus on addressing whatever Immune Deficiencies were present, or whatever specific illnesses were manifesting, instead of only allowing themselves to focus on trying (and always failing) to obliterate or alter or eradicate the surrogate markers &#8211; which don&#8217;t relate to patient health anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: MacDonald</title>
		<link>http://liamscheff.com/daily/2007/10/25/notes-on-a-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-11019</link>
		<dc:creator>MacDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What struck me about BBC&#039;s apology was that they upheld one of the complaints with the justification that apparent health improvements might not reflect the &quot;underlying health&quot; of the children, but simply absence of drug side effects - or something to that effect. This is in itself a rather paradoxical view. However, one of the studies Liam references, when decoded a wee bit, specifically emphasizes the relationship between severity of side-effects and failure of treatment.

&quot;One theory is that changes in body composition can predict the failure of anti-HIV treatment. If this is true, body composition measurements can be as useful as CD4+ cell counts in determining drug effectiveness.&quot;

http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00006064?order=4

The implicit admission that severity of side-effects seem to correlate with failure of treatment and progression to &quot;AIDS&quot; is directly opposed to BBC&#039;s murky reasoning.

http://www.tac.org.za/documents/BBCApology.pdf - Last paragraph p. 8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What struck me about BBC&#8217;s apology was that they upheld one of the complaints with the justification that apparent health improvements might not reflect the &#8220;underlying health&#8221; of the children, but simply absence of drug side effects &#8211; or something to that effect. This is in itself a rather paradoxical view. However, one of the studies Liam references, when decoded a wee bit, specifically emphasizes the relationship between severity of side-effects and failure of treatment.</p>
<p>&#8220;One theory is that changes in body composition can predict the failure of anti-HIV treatment. If this is true, body composition measurements can be as useful as CD4+ cell counts in determining drug effectiveness.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00006064?order=4" rel="nofollow">http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00006064?order=4</a></p>
<p>The implicit admission that severity of side-effects seem to correlate with failure of treatment and progression to &#8220;AIDS&#8221; is directly opposed to BBC&#8217;s murky reasoning.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tac.org.za/documents/BBCApology.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.tac.org.za/documents/BBCApology.pdf</a> &#8211; Last paragraph p. 8</p>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
		<link>http://liamscheff.com/daily/2007/10/25/notes-on-a-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-11021</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was posted at the snakepit, and I think it is a just piece of work:

An open letter to Cornell University. Please cut and paste and mail in to:

Office of the Dean
Weill Medical College of Cornell University
NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital/Weill Cornell Medical Center
1300 York Avenue, Box 144
New York, NY 10021

Or Email to: publicaffairs@med.cornell.edu
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Sunday, October 28, 2007

Office of the Dean
Weill Medical College of Cornell University
NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital/Weill Cornell Medical Center
1300 York Avenue, Box 144
New York, NY 10021
publicaffairs@med.cornell.edu

David J. Skorton, M.D. President of the University
Antonio M. Gotto, Jr., M.D., D.Phil. Provost for Medical Affairs and Dean of the Medical College
Dr. Andrew Schafer, chairman of the Department of Medicine at the Medical College and physician-in-chief at NewYork-Presbyterian/Weill Cornell, Cornell University

Dear Gentlemen,

This is a letter of complaint concerning the activities of John P Moore PhD, Professor of Microbiology and Immunology at Cornell Medical College, Weill Cornell Graduate School of Medical Sciences, and Cornell University,

This individual has engaged in the following activities:

A) Defense of Unethical Medical Experimentation.

The US government has determined that unethical conduct took place on the part of Columbia Presbyterian Hospital in regard to medical experimentation on black and Hispanic orphans without obtaining proper informed consent This fact was reported by the Associated Press (1). Moore is defending this unethical medical experimentation with a complaint to the BBC concerning their documentary, Guinea Pig Kids, which revealed the unethical medial experimentation on children as mentioned above. This complaint letter to the BBC originated from the New York-based Center for HIV Law and Policy which is a front for Moore&#039;s activities.(2)

B) Suppression of Academic Freedom

Moore engages in a campaign of smear tactics and academic back stabbing against other highly regarded academics of good standing who disagree with Moore on questions of biological science. At this same time, Moore has cowardly refused to openly debate his academic opponents in a public forum. (3)

C) Moore maintains a defamatory and libelous website called AIDSTruth.com, in which Moore uses defamatory labels and smear tactics to attack his academic opponents.(4)

In addition, this letter is a demand for an open academic debate in a public forum on the merits of Moore&#039;s views versus the scientific views of the highly regarded academic individuals singled out on Moore&#039;s web site. Moore&#039;s activities represent an affront to academic freedom, ethics in human medical experimentation, and human decency. I appeal to you to take the appropriate action.

Regards,

Name ____________________
Address____________________
Phone number_________________
Year Graduated from Cornell______________________
Or other Medical School or University Affiliation_________________________


References:

(1) Thursday, Jun. 16, 2005 - 1:46 PM By JOHN SOLOMON Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - &quot;The government has concluded at least some AIDS drug experiments involving foster children violated federal rules designed to ensure vulnerable youths were protected from the risks of medical research. &quot;

&quot;The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services&#039; Office of Human Research Protections concluded that Columbia University Presbyterian Medical Center in New York, where several foster children were enrolled in drug studies in the 1990s, failed to obtain and evaluate whether it had proper consent, information and safeguards for the foster kids.&quot;

(2) &#039;Serious concern&#039; at BBC over flawed HIV film Leigh Holmwood Media Guardian Tuesday October 23 2007. Far from being flawed, the film accurately portrayed ethics violations in the unlawful medical experimentation on black and hispanic orphans without informed consent at ICC.

(3) see aidstruth.org which mentions a number of Moore&#039;s opponents by name along with defamatory labels and smear tactics.

(4) aidstruth.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was posted at the snakepit, and I think it is a just piece of work:</p>
<p>An open letter to Cornell University. Please cut and paste and mail in to:</p>
<p>Office of the Dean<br />
Weill Medical College of Cornell University<br />
NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital/Weill Cornell Medical Center<br />
1300 York Avenue, Box 144<br />
New York, NY 10021</p>
<p>Or Email to: <a href="mailto:publicaffairs@med.cornell.edu">publicaffairs@med.cornell.edu</a><br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Sunday, October 28, 2007</p>
<p>Office of the Dean<br />
Weill Medical College of Cornell University<br />
NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital/Weill Cornell Medical Center<br />
1300 York Avenue, Box 144<br />
New York, NY 10021<br />
<a href="mailto:publicaffairs@med.cornell.edu">publicaffairs@med.cornell.edu</a></p>
<p>David J. Skorton, M.D. President of the University<br />
Antonio M. Gotto, Jr., M.D., D.Phil. Provost for Medical Affairs and Dean of the Medical College<br />
Dr. Andrew Schafer, chairman of the Department of Medicine at the Medical College and physician-in-chief at NewYork-Presbyterian/Weill Cornell, Cornell University</p>
<p>Dear Gentlemen,</p>
<p>This is a letter of complaint concerning the activities of John P Moore PhD, Professor of Microbiology and Immunology at Cornell Medical College, Weill Cornell Graduate School of Medical Sciences, and Cornell University,</p>
<p>This individual has engaged in the following activities:</p>
<p>A) Defense of Unethical Medical Experimentation.</p>
<p>The US government has determined that unethical conduct took place on the part of Columbia Presbyterian Hospital in regard to medical experimentation on black and Hispanic orphans without obtaining proper informed consent This fact was reported by the Associated Press (1). Moore is defending this unethical medical experimentation with a complaint to the BBC concerning their documentary, Guinea Pig Kids, which revealed the unethical medial experimentation on children as mentioned above. This complaint letter to the BBC originated from the New York-based Center for HIV Law and Policy which is a front for Moore&#8217;s activities.(2)</p>
<p>B) Suppression of Academic Freedom</p>
<p>Moore engages in a campaign of smear tactics and academic back stabbing against other highly regarded academics of good standing who disagree with Moore on questions of biological science. At this same time, Moore has cowardly refused to openly debate his academic opponents in a public forum. (3)</p>
<p>C) Moore maintains a defamatory and libelous website called AIDSTruth.com, in which Moore uses defamatory labels and smear tactics to attack his academic opponents.(4)</p>
<p>In addition, this letter is a demand for an open academic debate in a public forum on the merits of Moore&#8217;s views versus the scientific views of the highly regarded academic individuals singled out on Moore&#8217;s web site. Moore&#8217;s activities represent an affront to academic freedom, ethics in human medical experimentation, and human decency. I appeal to you to take the appropriate action.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Name ____________________<br />
Address____________________<br />
Phone number_________________<br />
Year Graduated from Cornell______________________<br />
Or other Medical School or University Affiliation_________________________</p>
<p>References:</p>
<p>(1) Thursday, Jun. 16, 2005 &#8211; 1:46 PM By JOHN SOLOMON Associated Press Writer</p>
<p>WASHINGTON (AP) &#8211; &#8220;The government has concluded at least some AIDS drug experiments involving foster children violated federal rules designed to ensure vulnerable youths were protected from the risks of medical research. &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services&#8217; Office of Human Research Protections concluded that Columbia University Presbyterian Medical Center in New York, where several foster children were enrolled in drug studies in the 1990s, failed to obtain and evaluate whether it had proper consent, information and safeguards for the foster kids.&#8221;</p>
<p>(2) &#8216;Serious concern&#8217; at BBC over flawed HIV film Leigh Holmwood Media Guardian Tuesday October 23 2007. Far from being flawed, the film accurately portrayed ethics violations in the unlawful medical experimentation on black and hispanic orphans without informed consent at ICC.</p>
<p>(3) see aidstruth.org which mentions a number of Moore&#8217;s opponents by name along with defamatory labels and smear tactics.</p>
<p>(4) aidstruth.org</p>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 00:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My post at the Snakepit, home of the aidsmafia&#039;s soldiers:

(waiting for it to post - http://scienceblogs.com/aetiology/2007/10/bbc_apologizes_for_promotion_o.php )


Here on this page, &quot;an expose on Heart Surgery&quot; is being compared to the involuntary cutting open of children&#039;s abdomens to force a drug regimen.

Hence, the term &quot;nazi.&quot;

I&#039;m glad we all agree then, that these children have their stomachs cut open when they refuse drugs. I&#039;d hate to have to post the J.Pediatrics write up of the wonderful practice. I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve found it already (or haven&#039;t you bothered to see if anything anybody says is true, when it doesn&#039;t please you?)


Fascist goes to this:

* Here&#039;s the study:

http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00001108?order=30

Seven drugs, some at higher than usual doses,&quot; in children as young as four years old.


* Here&#039;s the study:

http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00006064?order=4

Children pumped with drugs that cause lipodystrophy, for the purpose of studying lipodystrophy.

(maybe that&#039;s &quot;nazi&quot; too).



* Here&#039;s the study:

http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00000902?order=3

Seven drugs in some variety of combination on infants as young as six months old.

See &quot;Incarnation Children&#039;s Center&quot; and &quot;Columbia Presbyterian&quot; in the &quot;Location&quot; section of the studies.



Seven drugs, some at &quot;higher than usual doses&quot; in children as young as four.

Tara, would you give your child seven ... pieces of candy at once?

How about seven children&#039;s tylenol?

How about seven over-the-counter medications, of any kind?


These are seven FDA Black-Box label drugs, at once, or in combination, over and over, in every study, fed through nasal tubes when the vomiting is too much, and surgical stomach tubes, when the kids refuse too often.


There&#039;s nothing untrue about any part of the story. It is as it was lived. All my sources - Mimi Pascual, Mona N., Jackie H., the boy Shawn, have been interviewed for print or film, by various reporters, so you can read or hear or watch them speak their words. I spoke with about 5 or 6 child-care workers and nurses from ICC through early 2005, when I was doing the second part of the work (see &quot;Inside Incarnation.&quot;)   I only got to use a little of the material, because the Aids police at the NY Times, John Moore, was so good at getting the paper of record to jump the rails, and lie.

The Times spit out a piece two years ago that is a verbatum of today&#039;s Moore/Bergman ridiculously happy tale: &quot;Yes, sure, there were trials, drug trials on orphans! But they were only with wonderful, life-saving drugs! (just don&#039;t read the labels (or we&#039;ll call you a denialist)).&quot;


The reporters credited with the NYTimes piece - Janny Scott and Leslie Kaufman - either did not write the piece, or had it altered in editorial (or just skunked me out), because they interviewed me for hours, and interviewed most of the mothers who were my sources - Mona, J. Herger, and reported none of it. None.

They did not mention it - or, I think, Moore did not have it mentioned. They actually claimed that I offered &quot;no evidence.&quot; They pretended that they hadn&#039;t interviewed these women. They did this while citing my major evidence, that clinical trials with many FDA black box label drugs were going on in children.


They just pretended like there was no possible harm that could come from it, and they hid, obscured, lied about, covered-up, rearranged, any sign or hint of reality in looking at a drug trials that use Nevirapine, AZT, DDL, 3TC, Didanosine, Lamivudine, Bactrim, experimental vaccines, etc.  This obfuscation constitutes, I do not doubt, a legally offensive breach of ethics, and if I had money, I&#039;d sue them. But I do not have money.

And yet, in one of the complaint letters flying around, they cite Mona specifically, as the mother who didn&#039;t want to give her kids the drugs and had them taken away as a consequence.


Holding down kids to drug them - Is that surprising? I mean, it&#039;s a terrible reality when performing the routine of studies and regimens like this: How do you get seven drugs in one dosing into a child? They refuse, they squirm, you hold them in their chair. They refuse, you put in a Naso-Gastric tube. They refuse you take them in for surgery.

The &quot;Aidscare&quot; article by Claire Yaffa shows pictures of drugs being administered at ICC. And those are the nice, &quot;well-behaved&quot; ones. You get the idea and the picture.


Mimi talked about it, at grotesque length, as did a nurse I agreed to call Rhonda for the story (b/c she still worked in the field), another child-care worker Maritza, another nurse, another childcare worker, a couple adult volunteers at the place, the two kids of Mona (one interviewed in the BBC movie, one not), another girl &quot;Michelle&quot; in my story, now over 18, and out of there, no more drugs, but a thyroid condition to show for her massive poisoning...a boy called &quot;Andre&quot; for the story, over 18, away from the place, but now with cancer.

I spoke with insider after insider, but who wants to publish that book when the NY Times says &quot;it was all blown out of proportion!&quot;  Or, more to the point, &quot;Only denialists believe that AZT isn&#039;t a wonder drug!!!&quot;


&lt;b&gt;Tara,&lt;/b&gt; I&#039;ll be glad to come by your office anytime I&#039;m in the Chicago area, I&#039;ll make a special trip to your state - Andy M. and I will run over, and we&#039;ll go through my documents and files, and you can review the material, and listen to the stories, and you can write about that on your blog, how these people decided to trust that maybe by telling their awful stories of medical terror and abuse they&#039;d be able to get a little bit out from under, and they&#039;ve (and I) have discovered that we were wrong.


They were wrong. And so was I. The press doesn&#039;t care. &quot;Ethical&quot; medicine couldn&#039;t give a good goddamn. But I&#039;ll be by your office someday in the spring, and I&#039;ll bring the material, and you can have a look and listen to the testimony of people who are being crushed and silenced here.


&lt;b&gt;But, that&#039;s all very sad, and this is a victory party for you.&lt;/b&gt;

So, look, you and your people really, really win this one.

And I&#039;m happy for you, and just happy for personal reasons, because some of the people I cared about at that place made it out alive, and they aren&#039;t being poisoned daily anymore. A couple have or have had cancer to show for their massive drugging, however, and some will just never be human again.

And some, like Seon, like Shyanne, like Ashley, and more, they are dead. And these are their names. SEON. SHYANNE. ASHLEY. And they had Gtubes, Adele. (Maybe you can get one for yourself, and push some thalidomide into your abdomen from time time, and see how that goes). That&#039;s what they did and do at ICC, and in pediatric Aids.

Thalidomide through a g-tube.

And that&#039;s what you&#039;re fighting for.

And that&#039;s what I&#039;ve been fighting against.

And sweet holy mother of Christ, am I glad to be on the side that I&#039;m on.

If being a denialist means that you&#039;re not in favor of pumping &quot;seven black-box label drugs at once, some at higher than usual doses&quot; into children locked in an orphanage, well then, I guess we&#039;ve figured something about the orthodoxy, versus the &quot;denialists.&quot;

By the way, I was done with this story. It&#039;s always very good of you people to bring it back, over and over and over again. It gives a whole new audience a chance to read about the &quot;wonder and magic&quot; of your &quot;life-saving aids drugs.&quot;

Keep it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My post at the Snakepit, home of the aidsmafia&#8217;s soldiers:</p>
<p>(waiting for it to post &#8211; <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/aetiology/2007/10/bbc_apologizes_for_promotion_o.php" rel="nofollow">http://scienceblogs.com/aetiology/2007/10/bbc_apologizes_for_promotion_o.php</a> )</p>
<p>Here on this page, &#8220;an expose on Heart Surgery&#8221; is being compared to the involuntary cutting open of children&#8217;s abdomens to force a drug regimen.</p>
<p>Hence, the term &#8220;nazi.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad we all agree then, that these children have their stomachs cut open when they refuse drugs. I&#8217;d hate to have to post the J.Pediatrics write up of the wonderful practice. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve found it already (or haven&#8217;t you bothered to see if anything anybody says is true, when it doesn&#8217;t please you?)</p>
<p>Fascist goes to this:</p>
<p>* Here&#8217;s the study:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00001108?order=30" rel="nofollow">http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00001108?order=30</a></p>
<p>Seven drugs, some at higher than usual doses,&#8221; in children as young as four years old.</p>
<p>* Here&#8217;s the study:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00006064?order=4" rel="nofollow">http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00006064?order=4</a></p>
<p>Children pumped with drugs that cause lipodystrophy, for the purpose of studying lipodystrophy.</p>
<p>(maybe that&#8217;s &#8220;nazi&#8221; too).</p>
<p>* Here&#8217;s the study:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00000902?order=3" rel="nofollow">http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00000902?order=3</a></p>
<p>Seven drugs in some variety of combination on infants as young as six months old.</p>
<p>See &#8220;Incarnation Children&#8217;s Center&#8221; and &#8220;Columbia Presbyterian&#8221; in the &#8220;Location&#8221; section of the studies.</p>
<p>Seven drugs, some at &#8220;higher than usual doses&#8221; in children as young as four.</p>
<p>Tara, would you give your child seven &#8230; pieces of candy at once?</p>
<p>How about seven children&#8217;s tylenol?</p>
<p>How about seven over-the-counter medications, of any kind?</p>
<p>These are seven FDA Black-Box label drugs, at once, or in combination, over and over, in every study, fed through nasal tubes when the vomiting is too much, and surgical stomach tubes, when the kids refuse too often.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing untrue about any part of the story. It is as it was lived. All my sources &#8211; Mimi Pascual, Mona N., Jackie H., the boy Shawn, have been interviewed for print or film, by various reporters, so you can read or hear or watch them speak their words. I spoke with about 5 or 6 child-care workers and nurses from ICC through early 2005, when I was doing the second part of the work (see &#8220;Inside Incarnation.&#8221;)   I only got to use a little of the material, because the Aids police at the NY Times, John Moore, was so good at getting the paper of record to jump the rails, and lie.</p>
<p>The Times spit out a piece two years ago that is a verbatum of today&#8217;s Moore/Bergman ridiculously happy tale: &#8220;Yes, sure, there were trials, drug trials on orphans! But they were only with wonderful, life-saving drugs! (just don&#8217;t read the labels (or we&#8217;ll call you a denialist)).&#8221;</p>
<p>The reporters credited with the NYTimes piece &#8211; Janny Scott and Leslie Kaufman &#8211; either did not write the piece, or had it altered in editorial (or just skunked me out), because they interviewed me for hours, and interviewed most of the mothers who were my sources &#8211; Mona, J. Herger, and reported none of it. None.</p>
<p>They did not mention it &#8211; or, I think, Moore did not have it mentioned. They actually claimed that I offered &#8220;no evidence.&#8221; They pretended that they hadn&#8217;t interviewed these women. They did this while citing my major evidence, that clinical trials with many FDA black box label drugs were going on in children.</p>
<p>They just pretended like there was no possible harm that could come from it, and they hid, obscured, lied about, covered-up, rearranged, any sign or hint of reality in looking at a drug trials that use Nevirapine, AZT, DDL, 3TC, Didanosine, Lamivudine, Bactrim, experimental vaccines, etc.  This obfuscation constitutes, I do not doubt, a legally offensive breach of ethics, and if I had money, I&#8217;d sue them. But I do not have money.</p>
<p>And yet, in one of the complaint letters flying around, they cite Mona specifically, as the mother who didn&#8217;t want to give her kids the drugs and had them taken away as a consequence.</p>
<p>Holding down kids to drug them &#8211; Is that surprising? I mean, it&#8217;s a terrible reality when performing the routine of studies and regimens like this: How do you get seven drugs in one dosing into a child? They refuse, they squirm, you hold them in their chair. They refuse, you put in a Naso-Gastric tube. They refuse you take them in for surgery.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Aidscare&#8221; article by Claire Yaffa shows pictures of drugs being administered at ICC. And those are the nice, &#8220;well-behaved&#8221; ones. You get the idea and the picture.</p>
<p>Mimi talked about it, at grotesque length, as did a nurse I agreed to call Rhonda for the story (b/c she still worked in the field), another child-care worker Maritza, another nurse, another childcare worker, a couple adult volunteers at the place, the two kids of Mona (one interviewed in the BBC movie, one not), another girl &#8220;Michelle&#8221; in my story, now over 18, and out of there, no more drugs, but a thyroid condition to show for her massive poisoning&#8230;a boy called &#8220;Andre&#8221; for the story, over 18, away from the place, but now with cancer.</p>
<p>I spoke with insider after insider, but who wants to publish that book when the NY Times says &#8220;it was all blown out of proportion!&#8221;  Or, more to the point, &#8220;Only denialists believe that AZT isn&#8217;t a wonder drug!!!&#8221;</p>
<p><b>Tara,</b> I&#8217;ll be glad to come by your office anytime I&#8217;m in the Chicago area, I&#8217;ll make a special trip to your state &#8211; Andy M. and I will run over, and we&#8217;ll go through my documents and files, and you can review the material, and listen to the stories, and you can write about that on your blog, how these people decided to trust that maybe by telling their awful stories of medical terror and abuse they&#8217;d be able to get a little bit out from under, and they&#8217;ve (and I) have discovered that we were wrong.</p>
<p>They were wrong. And so was I. The press doesn&#8217;t care. &#8220;Ethical&#8221; medicine couldn&#8217;t give a good goddamn. But I&#8217;ll be by your office someday in the spring, and I&#8217;ll bring the material, and you can have a look and listen to the testimony of people who are being crushed and silenced here.</p>
<p><b>But, that&#8217;s all very sad, and this is a victory party for you.</b></p>
<p>So, look, you and your people really, really win this one.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m happy for you, and just happy for personal reasons, because some of the people I cared about at that place made it out alive, and they aren&#8217;t being poisoned daily anymore. A couple have or have had cancer to show for their massive drugging, however, and some will just never be human again.</p>
<p>And some, like Seon, like Shyanne, like Ashley, and more, they are dead. And these are their names. SEON. SHYANNE. ASHLEY. And they had Gtubes, Adele. (Maybe you can get one for yourself, and push some thalidomide into your abdomen from time time, and see how that goes). That&#8217;s what they did and do at ICC, and in pediatric Aids.</p>
<p>Thalidomide through a g-tube.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re fighting for.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve been fighting against.</p>
<p>And sweet holy mother of Christ, am I glad to be on the side that I&#8217;m on.</p>
<p>If being a denialist means that you&#8217;re not in favor of pumping &#8220;seven black-box label drugs at once, some at higher than usual doses&#8221; into children locked in an orphanage, well then, I guess we&#8217;ve figured something about the orthodoxy, versus the &#8220;denialists.&#8221;</p>
<p>By the way, I was done with this story. It&#8217;s always very good of you people to bring it back, over and over and over again. It gives a whole new audience a chance to read about the &#8220;wonder and magic&#8221; of your &#8220;life-saving aids drugs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Keep it up.</p>
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