Comments on: Calling All Cedu Survivors http://liamscheff.com/daily/2008/05/22/calling-all-cedu-survivors/ History, Philosophy, Politics and Culture Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:23:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Kari Bunn http://liamscheff.com/daily/2008/05/22/calling-all-cedu-survivors/#comment-8630 Kari Bunn Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:52:50 +0000 http://liamscheff.com/daily/2008/05/22/calling-all-cedu-survivors/#comment-8630 Over the last few years I have been doing a lot of research on CEDU. Obviously not as much as you!!! I was there from 5/94-6/98. I am still in touch with about 40 people I was there with. I would love to tell you about my experience there. My mom died 1 month after I got there. I was allowed to see her for a few hours before she died and was allowed to only see the actual funeral. All of this was supervised by a staff member who flew with me and watched over me the whole time. I still was not allowed to talk to anyone except for my father on the same schedule as everyone. All through my stay I was accused of not dealing with anything other than my mother dying. I would love to tell you about that. I also used to visit as an alumni. A year after my graduation I spent a week at CEDU with someone from my peer group. We stayed at Dennis's camp. Dennis on the ride up the mountain from the airport asked me to spend time with a girl who was having a really hard time being there. So I became her big sister for the week. Her name was Paris Hilton. I would love to be a part of what you are doing for us in any way possible. I have been waiting for a email back! Please write back soon! Over the last few years I have been doing a lot of research on CEDU. Obviously not as much as you!!! I was there from 5/94-6/98. I am still in touch with about 40 people I was there with. I would love to tell you about my experience there.
My mom died 1 month after I got there. I was allowed to see her for a few hours before she died and was allowed to only see the actual funeral. All of this was supervised by a staff member who flew with me and watched over me the whole time. I still was not allowed to talk to anyone except for my father on the same schedule as everyone. All through my stay I was accused of not dealing with anything other than my mother dying. I would love to tell you about that. I also used to visit as an alumni. A year after my graduation I spent a week at CEDU with someone from my peer group. We stayed at Dennis’s camp. Dennis on the ride up the mountain from the airport asked me to spend time with a girl who was having a really hard time being there. So I became her big sister for the week. Her name was Paris Hilton.
I would love to be a part of what you are doing for us in any way possible. I have been waiting for a email back! Please write back soon!

]]> By: Tom http://liamscheff.com/daily/2008/05/22/calling-all-cedu-survivors/#comment-8628 Tom Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:33:37 +0000 http://liamscheff.com/daily/2008/05/22/calling-all-cedu-survivors/#comment-8628 Wow. I am a cedu grad (5/2000 - 6/2002). I have both good and bad memories of that place. I've since become a student of psychology to try and better understand what was going on there. I think cedu had some good ideas and could have been a really amazing thing. Even now I still have things that i took away from cedu that are valubale. Unfortunately, the system was not set up well and was rife with corruption. It was far too easy for students to manipulate the system and far too common to see staff make bad choices. Many of the staff that were there in my time possesed no formal training in any of the helping professions. Some had never even been to college. While i believe that anyone is capable of helping another person, you should have some formal training on how to help if you are going to work in an environment like cedu. I'd like to help with this documentary in any way i can so please let me know what i can do to help. Also, several former cedu staff from my time have facebook and myspace pages so they could be contacted. Wow. I am a cedu grad (5/2000 - 6/2002). I have both good and bad memories of that place. I’ve since become a student of psychology to try and better understand what was going on there. I think cedu had some good ideas and could have been a really amazing thing. Even now I still have things that i took away from cedu that are valubale. Unfortunately, the system was not set up well and was rife with corruption. It was far too easy for students to manipulate the system and far too common to see staff make bad choices. Many of the staff that were there in my time possesed no formal training in any of the helping professions. Some had never even been to college. While i believe that anyone is capable of helping another person, you should have some formal training on how to help if you are going to work in an environment like cedu. I’d like to help with this documentary in any way i can so please let me know what i can do to help. Also, several former cedu staff from my time have facebook and myspace pages so they could be contacted.

]]> By: Elana http://liamscheff.com/daily/2008/05/22/calling-all-cedu-survivors/#comment-8616 Elana Sat, 01 Nov 2008 08:04:31 +0000 http://liamscheff.com/daily/2008/05/22/calling-all-cedu-survivors/#comment-8616 I am a Cedu survivor. Graduated in 89. Would love to hear from you I am a Cedu survivor. Graduated in 89. Would love to hear from you

]]> By: Shea http://liamscheff.com/daily/2008/05/22/calling-all-cedu-survivors/#comment-8613 Shea Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:49:15 +0000 http://liamscheff.com/daily/2008/05/22/calling-all-cedu-survivors/#comment-8613 I was at Boulder Creek Academy. Its right down the road from the old RMA campus. It's the same type of school that CEDU was. I'm sorry I wasn't specific. My bad. BCA was owned by Brown schools the same company that owned CEDU. It's now owned my Universal heath services. The same stuff goes on their (raps are now called groups though), Restrictions, Work assignments, and all the other consequences. If you have anymore questions, post it on this page and I will reply and answer with honesty. I was at Boulder Creek Academy. Its right down the road from the old RMA campus. It’s the same type of school that CEDU was. I’m sorry I wasn’t specific. My bad.
BCA was owned by Brown schools the same company that owned CEDU. It’s now owned my Universal heath services.
The same stuff goes on their (raps are now called groups though), Restrictions, Work assignments, and all the other consequences. If you have anymore questions, post it on this page and I will reply and answer with honesty.

]]> By: Liam http://liamscheff.com/daily/2008/05/22/calling-all-cedu-survivors/#comment-8610 Liam Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:45:39 +0000 http://liamscheff.com/daily/2008/05/22/calling-all-cedu-survivors/#comment-8610 Shea - I don't know any of these people, or the program. Can you elaborate on the program you're describing for those unfamiliar with it? Shea - I don’t know any of these people, or the program. Can you elaborate on the program you’re describing for those unfamiliar with it?

]]> By: Shea http://liamscheff.com/daily/2008/05/22/calling-all-cedu-survivors/#comment-8609 Shea Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:21:44 +0000 http://liamscheff.com/daily/2008/05/22/calling-all-cedu-survivors/#comment-8609 1.(From former bca student Paul Johnson: Is a fake misunderstanding of kids type of man that spends his life ruining relationships and kicking people out of BCA for no reason, then lies to everybody about it. Shawnale Wilson: Just a phoney sheister out to make a buck on comissions from selling parents a cheap overrated, abusive program. Fake friendliness, fake smile, fake care, fake person - perfect salesperson - would be great in a used car lot. Teresa Dodd: She has angry and fake written all over her face. She was my team leader and tried to put me on b.s. restrictions. I think she enjoys giving people consequences. Mark Hewitt- A complete idiot who gets paid to make the students on his team look miserable by his ridiculous programs. i seriously think that guy gets a plesaure out making kids look like fools. Linda Daggy- The most uneducated therapist I’ve ever known. Half the time she doesn’t know what shes talking about and is most of the time trying to make her students miserable by having her manipulate your parents on conference calls. Very, very deep hatred for that woman. Doug Marshall- He actually tried for a point in time to intentionally deepen his voice, but i guess he gave it up becuase by the time i left he still, and will always sound like a six year old boy. All he cares about is himself and his outdoor b.s. 1.(From former bca student
Paul Johnson: Is a fake misunderstanding of kids type of man that spends his life ruining relationships and kicking people out of BCA for no reason, then lies to everybody about it.
Shawnale Wilson: Just a phoney sheister out to make a buck on comissions from selling parents a cheap overrated, abusive program. Fake friendliness, fake smile, fake care, fake person - perfect salesperson - would be great in a used car lot.
Teresa Dodd: She has angry and fake written all over her face. She was my team leader and tried to put me on b.s. restrictions. I think she enjoys giving people consequences.
Mark Hewitt- A complete idiot who gets paid to make the students on his team look miserable by his ridiculous programs. i seriously think that guy gets a plesaure out making kids look like fools.
Linda Daggy- The most uneducated therapist I’ve ever known. Half the time she doesn’t know what shes talking about and is most of the time trying to make her students miserable by having her manipulate your parents on conference calls. Very, very deep hatred for that woman.
Doug Marshall- He actually tried for a point in time to intentionally deepen his voice, but i guess he gave it up becuase by the time i left he still, and will always sound like a six year old boy. All he cares about is himself and his outdoor b.s.

]]> By: Romney http://liamscheff.com/daily/2008/05/22/calling-all-cedu-survivors/#comment-8597 Romney Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:47:17 +0000 http://liamscheff.com/daily/2008/05/22/calling-all-cedu-survivors/#comment-8597 Hi! Yeah, I've wanted to get back together with a lot of people I went to school with for a while. I keep in touch with most of them on my myspace account. My family and I had to drive through Idaho to move for the military and I called one of my favorite staff members and met up with her in Sandpoint. It was a surreal feeling. I watched the documentaries last night and it felt like a punch in the gut. I've tried to supress a lot of those memories (profeets, raps, etc.). I've been in therapy for the last 6 years trying to make sense of why I feel like a peice of shit all the time and it's starting to make sense to me! Anyway, I could blab a lot more but I just want to say that I appreciate you all going public. It makes me feel like it's not this big, dark secret anymore.. Thank you! Hi!
Yeah, I’ve wanted to get back together with a lot of people I went to school with for a while. I keep in touch with most of them on my myspace account. My family and I had to drive through Idaho to move for the military and I called one of my favorite staff members and met up with her in Sandpoint. It was a surreal feeling. I watched the documentaries last night and it felt like a punch in the gut. I’ve tried to supress a lot of those memories (profeets, raps, etc.). I’ve been in therapy for the last 6 years trying to make sense of why I feel like a peice of shit all the time and it’s starting to make sense to me! Anyway, I could blab a lot more but I just want to say that I appreciate you all going public. It makes me feel like it’s not this big, dark secret anymore.. Thank you!

]]> By: IAmArtsy http://liamscheff.com/daily/2008/05/22/calling-all-cedu-survivors/#comment-8592 IAmArtsy Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:43:59 +0000 http://liamscheff.com/daily/2008/05/22/calling-all-cedu-survivors/#comment-8592 Liam, I was in 5 programs (1982-1986) and I think 3 out of the 5 bore a resemblance to CEDU. I was in PDAP (like STRAIGHT), DAPA (hospital based) , and Timberlawn (this link will tell you alot about T-lawn http://fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=25762&p=314487&hilit=timberlawn#p314020 ). Raleigh Hills did not bear a resemblance to anything. It was an aversion therapy place that i was in very briefly. Also I was in a psych ward for awhile just because I had come out and no one knew where to send me or what to do with me. The first three programs were definitely fashioned after CEDU. Liam,

I was in 5 programs (1982-1986) and I think 3 out of the 5 bore a resemblance to CEDU. I was in PDAP (like STRAIGHT), DAPA (hospital based) , and Timberlawn (this link will tell you alot about T-lawn http://fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=25762&p=314487&hilit=timberlawn#p314020 ).

Raleigh Hills did not bear a resemblance to anything. It was an aversion therapy place that i was in very briefly. Also I was in a psych ward for awhile just because I had come out and no one knew where to send me or what to do with me. The first three programs were definitely fashioned after CEDU.

]]> By: V.T. http://liamscheff.com/daily/2008/05/22/calling-all-cedu-survivors/#comment-8575 V.T. Sun, 19 Oct 2008 04:30:35 +0000 http://liamscheff.com/daily/2008/05/22/calling-all-cedu-survivors/#comment-8575 I went to Ascent the summer of 08 and I was at NWA from 98-99 and received my high school diploma from the school. My senior year of high school was NWA. I didn't complete the CEDU/NWA emotional growth portion because my mother pulled me to send me to college. Since leaving NWA life has been challenging. I have been in college but have had a hard time maintaining friendships. My family never speaks about NWA, and tends to keep things around that quiet. It was hard accepting that, since at NWA/Ascent we were all encouraged to "express express express." Would love to hear from some old NWA'ers. I was there during the existence of peer groups 1 through 10. I went to Ascent the summer of 08 and I was at NWA from 98-99 and received my high school diploma from the school. My senior year of high school was NWA. I didn’t complete the CEDU/NWA emotional growth portion because my mother pulled me to send me to college. Since leaving NWA life has been challenging. I have been in college but have had a hard time maintaining friendships. My family never speaks about NWA, and tends to keep things around that quiet. It was hard accepting that, since at NWA/Ascent we were all encouraged to “express express express.” Would love to hear from some old NWA’ers. I was there during the existence of peer groups 1 through 10.

]]> By: rick http://liamscheff.com/daily/2008/05/22/calling-all-cedu-survivors/#comment-8557 rick Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:46:45 +0000 http://liamscheff.com/daily/2008/05/22/calling-all-cedu-survivors/#comment-8557 Thanks... I just read Singer and Ofshe's article and sure hate to see that terms like "imposed psychopathologies" so directly relate to me. Late............. Thanks…
I just read Singer and Ofshe’s article and sure hate to see that terms like “imposed psychopathologies” so directly relate to me.
Late………….

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