Cedu Documentary Clip 4 - Raps
October 8th, 2008 — -Clip #4 from the Cedu Documentary. Students experience their first “Raps,” Cedu’s three-times-weekly, four-hour “attack therapy,” and based on the Synanon “Game.”
Learn more about it in the Cedu Documentary section.
October 9th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Holy crap Liam! I just got back from the library to watch these clips cuz my computer has no sound. I had chills running up my spine the whole time. I’m having snot flashbacks and I bet I’ll have some messed up dreams tonight. Just saying thank you for putting this together is far too little in terms of gratitude. This means alot and it really needed to be done. I would gladly send in a payment to pre-order copies when it is available. Thank you Liam!
October 9th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
….Also
I was glad to see that Dennis Dokstedder decided to add to this. He’s the only adult there that I remember being a genuinely decent person. I hope there will be more of his testimony, there’s something valuable in hearing it from a former staff, even if it’s one who was only there part time and not directly involved in the most destructive aspects of Cedu. And to everyone else in this documentary thank you too. You did this for the benefit of us all and it is deeply appreciated.
October 9th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
I remember sitting in the same rap with Morgan and hearing the same raw fear. Feeling the same fear. I can remember the fear that I felt as the rap groups were being announced and then waiting for the rap to begin. It was like lining up for a firing squad. It still gives me a chill.
October 9th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Outstanding.
October 9th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
Hi,
Yes, glad it works, does bring up memory, for sure…it’s been something to process, while editing…
Dennis actually grew with the program, and went from being an adjunct staff to a central figure at the school, in his description; he became one of the most important and authoritative on the program after a time. He told us that, after a point, he had run more “IWTL” propheets than any other staff.
If you recall, staff tended to either leave in relatively short order, or move up the totem pole - he moved up! He was there right up till the end in 2005, and began his work in 1984 - so, a long employment. He was kind enough to give a long interview, and does comment throughout. More to come!
October 10th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
I agree Sarah! It was totally like lining up for a firing squad. So very very intense. And 3 times a week… What a nightmare.
October 12th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
Wow…good to hear all of this has been made public! From being told that one of my closest friends had suddenly died to repeatedly being called a “desperate whore” by school counselors, raps proved to be some of the most degrading (and confusing) experiences of my life.
I am now a secondary teacher in a public, inner-city district and cannot imagine addressing my students with the tone of disgust and humiliation that I faced (3 times-a-week) in CEDU raps.
October 12th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
Hi DBC,
Yes, that is how we were talked to, and worse, certainly. Can you give any detail on the incident you’re describing? (You can always email me, via the contact page on my website - liamscheff.com ).
Also - “good to hear that it ‘has been made’” - correction - “Is being made public” - that is, spread the word. It’s still a very hidden, very poorly understood and recorded phenomenon, that has widely impacted the culture, however.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
And the hits just keep on coming, holy shit ! I’m in shock right now, just to see those clips and be able to identify with all that’s being said. One of my worst childhood experiences had to do with a rap. I just laughed at the life size Nerf Ball description of snot flowing and got scared at the same time that I would ever have to sit in a rap again. Though I will give you this, you having Dennis in these documentary clips does put a smile on my face. He’s the only staff member, minus one other I never hated.